Here's a Av that actually I never did that @TheViking did a very long time ago that I always enjoyed I didn't touch any of his settings besides removing ''Safe Select'' and the only other thing I did was ''BEEFED UP'' all of the control surfaces to help keep them from breaking off in midair LOL!! The reason that happens with this plane is because he made it capable to do every 3D move in the book Hovers,Rolling Harriars,Inverted Harrars etc. So if you enjoy ''Sleeper'' 3d planes as I do? This plane is right up your alley