Appreciate both suggestions, really any suggestions at this point. HH recommended I reinstall RF with all firewalls off. I did this with his last install....but reluctantly because on previous install when I did that I got a nasty email trojan virus slipped through, or, as I felt came in with the RF installer.....anyway, I have never, in almost 3 years had a stable install. it is a constant hack. Yet, I have really improved on the sticks becasue by hook or crook, I get planes to fly! but now, with no other airports, it sucks. I cannot uninstall all my airport. Right now, only the default Eli works...