Pzl p1

[Fly_electric]

Definitely 7th it!

 

[uncle twist]

any clues you guys can give, just looking at these pics would be helpful. Second pic is looking at the bottom of the fuse, why the shading/do I have to worry about it

 

[abaser]

Highlight the areas Ive outlined in red. open the menu and select "HARDNESS>HARD. Do this anywhere that a defined edge will be, such as where the deck meets the fuselage, back face of the spinner, rear faces of the fuselage etc. You are dealing with smoothing groups. Only in wings, its referred to as hard edges.

 

[uncle twist]

I still have to "add" to the cockpit area, and extrude the rear of the fuse a little, will it still be ok to do what your sugg. What about the shading on the bottom of the fuse. Thanks Andy

 

[abaser]

You can add/remove the hard edges at any time. To remove, select soft instead of hard. For the bottom, make your firewall edges hard.

 

[uncle twist]

Firewall edges..?? does this pic help

 

[abaser]

Yup, that helps. Again, red=hard edges

BTW, did you get the PMs I sent?

 

[abaser]

Also, when showing that type of view, hit W to show the wireframe on top. Hit again to remove. Seeing that might also give clues to odd shading like on the bottom of the fuselage.

 

[uncle twist]

Got the email, I`ll try what you`ve said, and post pics within the next day or two.
Damn rookies...(me)..

 

[abaser]

We all start somewhere. You'll get it.

 

[abaser]

Here's a comparison shot. One side has hard edges, one doesnt. Can you tell which is which?

 

[uncle twist]

Am I going to be graded.....looking at the pic, the rt. side....but the left wing

 

[abaser]

Only the left side of the model. The entire right side has had them removed. Notice the shading on the fuse bottom. Once you do a few, you'll get the hang of it fairly quick.

 

[uncle twist]

I smell what your stepping in

 

[Kris...]

This looks awesome I will shut up now

 

[uncle twist]

OK, so I deleted that mess and extruded from the red face after removing the two verts. that were there, this gave me only one face instead of three to extrude. There are now six verts that I made hard (orange line), right/wrong ??????, what do I do at this point, before I go any further ???? I`m trying to add pics. not having any luck

 

[abaser]

Best thing, loop cut that front box off. Then, extrude all faces that you want to bring forward.

UT, I'm about to head home for lunch. If you want,send me your file, and I'll duplicate your fuselage and show you what I'm talking about. If you extrude those faces, you'll end up in the same situation as before. You'll actually create two faces on top of each other.

 

[uncle twist]

The rest of the pics

 

[uncle twist]

Thanks Andy Done

 

[abaser]

What happens is, when you extrude, you're creating faces all the way around what you extrude. Along with those faces, comes extra verts. There's several ways to fix it, but this was the simplest way. Each circumstance may need different fixes though, so be careful to avoid that mistake. If it happens again, just let me know.