Can't run Evolution!

[Bill Stuntz]

It wont run on my gaming PC. The dev team removed support for Win 7.

I must have misinterpreted what you said. My understanding was "I was excited to get it running on my gaming PC, but I can't make it work on the antique." I wouldn't call that machine a "gaming PC." To me, "gaming PC" implies a relatively recent PC with high end video. I made a similar mistake when RF-X was released, thinking my video card was "good enough" since it had 2G RAM & was DX12 compatible. I got 6fps in RF-X, and about 75fps under RF7. I'm not sure whether ANY CPU that will work in your AM3+ m/b will run Win10. I gotta agree with csgill75 that you probably need a new PC. There are plenty of refurbished PC's available for $250 or so that would probably be fine. But I'd recommend something that's compatible with Win11 since Win10 support will end about 2 years and you'll be back in the same boat too soon if you go too cheap. The cheapest ones are not Win11 compatible.

Have you tried "compatibility mode" under Win10 for the programs that run under Win7 but won't run under W10?

 

[flightengr]

Ya but I have a few important apps and that will not run with win10.

I've found that a lot of older apps that were made back in the Windows 7 days still work fine on Windows 10.

It's things that were made more recently that are no longer compatible with 7 and require 10 or 11.

 

[csgill75]

It wont run on my gaming PC. The dev team removed support for Win 7.

The dev Team did not go out of the way to remove support for windows 7. More likely when they moved to a 64 bit architecture, because that has to happen to further development of Realflight, the new libraries and files required for Realflight to function do not support Windows 7. Microsoft created those files and Microsoft more than likely chose to drop Windows 7 support as it is a depreciated product. I get it that there are old softwares out there that don't like anything other than Windows 7, but that just means that those developers need to do their job and upgrade their software or it could mean that you need to update the software to work.

 

[Martyg56]

I'm getting the exact same "Error loading DLL AppCore.dll" on my windows 8 machine. I have a Windows 10 machine aswell and RF Evo wont run on that either as it runs Directx 12 rather than 11 !! from what I've read, even a brand new machine won't solve these problems as the RF Evo software is only compatible with a particular set of PC combinations !!!

 

[Ryan Douglas]

I believe when we've seen this occur on non-Windows 7 machines, it has ended up being an issue with the Visual C++ runtime.

Did you see post #3 in this thread? Please follow those steps.

 

[Ryan Douglas]

Whoops, I meant to also respond to the rest of your post, @Martyg56.

RealFlight Evolution actually runs on a very wide range of PCs. It should work on pretty much any current machine. Don't be misled by your computer reporting DirectX 12. If your system hardware truly supports DirectX 11, or DirectX 12 (which means it will also support 11), then it will run Evo.

It is also possible you were thrown by reports of compatibility issues with machines that do not fully support DirectX 9, but those issues are now solved by Evolution running on DirectX 11.

The problem is that even though a computer has DirectX 12 installed, its hardware may not actually support DirectX 11 or 12 feature levels. More on that here. So, if you're trying to run RF and it is explicitly telling you on startup that your system does not support DX11, that's a different matter. But that should only ever occur on PCs that are quite old and/or have a nonstandard graphics adapter. In that case you can still revert to a version of Evolution that runs on DirectX 9 (details here). And if you update to a newer machine in the future, you will be able to run the latest version available.

 

[Martyg56]

Thanks for so much trying to help Ryan.
I've spent literally days now trying to get my newly purchased RF Evolution software to work. The best I've managed so far is to get it working by using the Deprecated Dx9 Beta on my windows 10 laptop. I was seriously considering investing in a brand new laptop, that was until I read this would not neccessarily solve the problem. The very last thing I wish to do is spend serious money on a new machine to have the same problems.
I have an E-flite Air Tractor model and was really looking forward to practising flying it on the RF sim. Having downloaded the Air Tractor file and got it running (Just about - some of the functions don't even work) it looks nothing like it does here....
https://forums.realflight.com/index.php?resources/e-flite-air-tractor_ea.25245/updates
I can only assume the deprecated Dx9 beta is visually greatly inferior to the latest version of Realflight ?
Anyways enough for now, having spent 3 more fruitless hours on this thing I'm off to bed ;- )

 

[Martyg56]

And so I ended up buying yet another laptop and finally RF Evo works - phew. This said, the E-flite Air Tractor model, which should be a doddle to fly, is a bugger - why? - it's impossible to trim to fly level. Other models fly fine but not the AT. Any help appreciated.

 

[technoid]

And so I ended up buying yet another laptop and finally RF Evo works - phew. This said, the E-flite Air Tractor model, which should be a doddle to fly, is a bugger - why? - it's impossible to trim to fly level. Other models fly fine but not the AT. Any help appreciated.

You're in luck you can buy the downloadable version of it on steam for 3.00 dollars. RealFlight releases a downloadable pack every three months of new planes and they released the E-flite UMX Air Tractor a while back. You can buy the whole pack or each plane, your choice. Here's a link to it.

RealFlight Evolution - E-flite UMX Air Tractor on Steam

The E-flite® UMX™ Air Tractor is an easy-to-fly ultra-micro version of the crop duster that's a perfect first scale or low-wing model for intermediate and beyond pilots. It features a 2S and 3S compatible power system, functional lights, and flaps!

store.steampowered.com

 

[flightengr]

Sounds like Martyg56 already owns one, but isn't flying as expected.

Many of the E-Flite planes in RF have SAFE Select or other SAFE features, just like their real counterparts. You might be in the "SAFE On" flight mode, which controls differently than a normal plane without self-level stabilization. You want to be able to control flight modes from a switch on your transmitter.

If you're using an InterLink DX, modes are on Switch B. If you're using something else, you'll want to arrange it such that a channel is linked to RealFlight Channel 8 "Mode" in the Controller Profile.

 

[technoid]

Sounds like Martyg56 already owns one, but isn't flying as expected.

Many of the E-Flite planes in RF have SAFE Select or other SAFE features, just like their real counterparts. You might be in the "SAFE On" flight mode, which controls differently than a normal plane without self-level stabilization. You want to be able to control flight modes from a switch on your transmitter.

If you're using an InterLink DX, modes are on Switch B. If you're using something else, you'll want to arrange it such that a channel is linked to RealFlight Channel 8 "Mode" in the Controller Profile.

Look in his post #27 he put a link to the one Donamy modeled a while back. I downloaded it and it did fly the way he said so that's why I gave him a link to the one I bought from Steam.

I'm sure the one by Donamy can be fixed in the physics but I really like the one I bought from Steam, and for 3 bucks you can't beat the price.

 

[Martyg56]

Sounds like Martyg56 already owns one, but isn't flying as expected.

Many of the E-Flite planes in RF have SAFE Select or other SAFE features, just like their real counterparts. You might be in the "SAFE On" flight mode, which controls differently than a normal plane without self-level stabilization. You want to be able to control flight modes from a switch on your transmitter.

If you're using an InterLink DX, modes are on Switch B. If you're using something else, you'll want to arrange it such that a channel is linked to RealFlight Channel 8 "Mode" in the Controller Profile.

I've sorted it ! - well, after a fashion....
The problem lies in the fact that Donamy's Air Tractor is an 11 channel version and my Spektrum DX9/Dongle combo can only handle 8 channels. The offending Stab Trim is on channel 10 and in my setup is stuck at full down. Having gone to ch10 in physics and reset the trim there from 0 to -100 has rendered the stab trim to neutral - YAY !! It was great to see those pesky little tabs moving up as I reset the trim value. The model now flies fine. I've always had control over the SAFE modes and flaps, and I can even detach the spray assembly. It's a shame I can't activate the sprayer but other than this all is now fine

 

[flightengr]

Look in his post #27 he put a link to the one Donamy modeled a while back. I downloaded it and it did fly the way he said so that's why I gave him a link to the one I bought from Steam.

I'm sure the one by Donamy can be fixed in the physics but I really like the one I bought from Steam, and for 3 bucks you can't beat the price.

Ahh... missed that. Sorry.

 

[technoid]

I've sorted it ! - well, after a fashion....
The problem lies in the fact that Donamy's Air Tractor is an 11 channel version and my Spektrum DX9/Dongle combo can only handle 8 channels. The offending Stab Trim is on channel 10 and in my setup is stuck at full down. Having gone to ch10 in physics and reset the trim there from 0 to -100 has rendered the stab trim to neutral - YAY !! It was great to see those pesky little tabs moving up as I reset the trim value. The model now flies fine. I've always had control over the SAFE modes and flaps, and I can even detach the spray assembly. It's a shame I can't activate the sprayer but other than this all is now fine

I'm glad to hear you got it flying okay. I guess I ought to look and see what's happening with Donamy's plane and me. I fly with the RealFlight InterLink-X controller, so I didn't expect to see a problem with it. But it did head for the dirt trying to fly it. I wonder why my trim would be off using the InterLink-X controller.

 

[Martyg56]

I'm glad to hear you got it flying okay. I guess I ought to look and see what's happening with Donamy's plane and me. I fly with the RealFlight InterLink-X controller, so I didn't expect to see a problem with it. But it did head for the dirt trying to fly it. I wonder why my trim would be off using the InterLink-X controller.

TBH I can't see the need for a separate control for those trim tabs ?? Why not simply keep them fixed and use the standard elevator trims on the Tx ?

 

[technoid]

TBH I can't see the need for a separate control for those trim tabs ?? Why not simply keep them fixed and use the standard elevator trims on the Tx ?

Yeah, I took a look and did the same thing you did, set the trim to -100, which zeroed the trim tab. But it was on channel 13 for me, which is why my InterLink-X wouldn't control it. I guess he was just getting fancy having a separate trim control.